Bona03
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That doesn't burn your redshirtYou mean the redshirt that Schmidt already burned from Rose by playing him 11 mins in a 40 point victory against Siena for no reason?
That doesn't burn your redshirt
Thank you, Commie. Looks like I had an outdated rule. I remember a similar issue with Simmons and Davenport, but that was health related, so it makes sense here.Anthony Grant on college basketball redshirt rule: Itâs âantiquatedâ and âneeds to changeâ
The NCAA changed the redshirt rule in college football in 2018, allowing players to appear in as many as four games without losing a year of eligibility.www.daytondailynews.com
Jamie Dixon: Basketball Redshirt Rule is 'Hurting Kids' Careers'
TCU head basketball coach says that he doesn’t get on too many issues publically, but there’s one that’s been on his mind lately: the redshirt rule in college basketball. “I don’t get on too many things publicly,” Dixon said according to Jamie Plunkett at HornedFrogBlitz. “But that one I have...www.heartlandcollegesports.com
I can send more, but playing in a single game 100% burns your redshirt. Rose is a sophomore.
That's what makes Schmidt's decision even more asinine. If the plan was to redshirt him all along (like Thompson), he should've never seen the floor, especially in a 40 point blowout. And since it is burned, you now have another player in your disposal to play in the NIT. Seton Hall's best player opted out of the NIT, but the team still played.Thank you, Commie. Looks like I had an outdated rule. I remember a similar issue with Simmons and Davenport, but that was health related, so it makes sense here.
Yea I'm with you here. It was completely botched but the decision was right. What's really dumb is the portal is open now. It shouldn't open until after the season is over. We would be playing if the portal was closed.I cannot criticize the decision not to play.
Injuries: check
Getting shipped off to some shitty P6 home job if we did play (“logistics”): check
Team members that had checked out (even before this): check
No brainer in my mind.
What’s understandably open to criticism is the communication / PR aspects. I always told my team members to tell stakeholders any bad/disappointing news and deal with the reactions on that basis because it will be worse if they find out on their own. I think is a good illustration of that.
As the dust settles, what’s hard to swallow is the fact there were at least 3 guys ( to say nothing of any seniors who were checked out) who would have rather gone straight to the portal than to play another game for this team. The way that reflects on the HC, program, and the state of the sport as a whole is what’s going to be hard to shake.
I think there has to be a lot of blame placed on Schmidt. It would be crazy not to do so.See this is what I dont get. You speculate that at least 3 guys quit, and while I hope you are wrong, you might not be.
But why do we bend over backwards to blame the head coach, everyone involved in the program and the sport at large for that, instead of... the quitters themselves.
Can we have some personal responsibility
That's a fair question. I do blame them. In an attempt to be somewhat concise, that would be included in the ‘to say nothing of the seniors’ and the ‘state of the sport’. This sort of thing is enabled if not encouraged today. And I would/do blame them for not respecting the efforts of those who made the season possible enough to play things out. I put blame on them for going into about 1/3 of their games this year looking disinterested.See this is what I dont get. You speculate that at least 3 guys quit, and while I hope you are wrong, you might not be.
But why do we bend over backwards to blame the head coach, everyone involved in the program and the sport at large for that, instead of... the quitters themselves.
Can we have some personal responsibility
I think there has to be a lot of blame placed on Schmidt. It would be crazy not to do so.
Evans, Venning and maybe Luc were all but guaranteed to start or at least get major minutes next year. So why did they leave? I imagine
MAW put up OK numbers in a mediocre basketball conference, but there was a LOT of bad blood & turmoil at Cincy under old Bona assistant John Brannen. Maybe it was on Brannen, but it looks more like it was on the players at UC. In addition to that, Cincy was never even close to an NCAA team despite all that is afforded that program. Kind of shows you who he truly was.
And I know, MAW's numbers were very solid, but he led an offense that just was not that good. To top that, MAW was supposedly going to Ole Miss for more $$$ but that fell apart at the last minute. I guess with what transpired with him after the NU game makes sense. He was in it only for the $$ and it showed.
Anyone from the Syracuse area that has some connections to the high school level knew Pride was a liiiitle shady. Was Schmidt willing to put that on the back burner because of their great stats? Possibly.
To summarize, player retention and roster continuity has not been a strength of Schmidt in this portal area. Schmidt brought in these guys, and he should have known their makeup. He's making the big bucks to figure this out.
I heard Venning would stay if the rest of the league promised not to double team him anymore.I don't how much players leaving is a Schmidt thing vs just the landscape now. Bonas isn't the only A10 team to lose players nor is it just an A10 problem.
From JP's article it sounded like Barry and Luc had one foot out the door and were going to enter the portal ar 1st chance, and maybe Venning was on the fence. If this is true with Venning I wonder what he wanted to stay and what Bonas was willing to promise.
I get that, but losing your entire roster two out of three years seems like an outlier.I don't how much players leaving is a Schmidt thing vs just the landscape now. Bonas isn't the only A10 team to lose players nor is it just an A10 problem.
From JP's article it sounded like Barry and Luc had one foot out the door and were going to enter the portal ar 1st chance, and maybe Venning was on the fence. If this is true with Venning I wonder what he wanted to stay and what Bonas was willing to promise.
I heard Venning would stay if the rest of the league promised not to double team him anymore.
I feel like we’re being a little revisionist here. Last offseason Schmidt kept all the important pieces, including guys like Luc, Assa, Evans and Banks who were all facing new playing time challenges. It was a miraculous feat in this greaseball era.I get that, but losing your entire roster two out of three years seems like an outlier.
It's more than understandable to lose 2-4 players to the portal each year, but we lost 12 two years ago, I think six last offseason and are already at 4 right now.