Is so good bud is to the buss the wealls take bonndies 2 da gueyem.I went into detail on an unorthodox Atlantic 10 scheduling plan that could allow teams to play 16-18 games while only making 2-4 (mostly short) road trips. https://www.sbunfurled.com/post/an-unconventional-scheduling-proposal-for-the-atlantic-10
Long, not joking post alert from Lil Bona X/BonaCommenter!!!
I just thought of one idea in the wake of the TBT/MLS is Back. I'll spit ball this at you guys. Let's assume conditions in this dystopia remain rough through January and online classes/hybrid models remain in effect through the spring semester. What if each conference did a bubble in February/March?
As an A10 example:
I know it is overly simplified and this doesn't account for all the lost training, players living off-campus and how readily available testing is by then. I have to wonder if it's morally right for any sports leagues to be hoarding all the testing needed to safely run a bubble when people are waiting at least a week for results. I'm a prime example of that. I've had a dry cough (no other symptoms) since around last Tuesday. I got tested at CVS (shoved that sucker up my nose, Pissah! Aloha!). Quest Diagnostics are in charge of that test and they're saying 7-9 days. What's the fucking point when you're supposed to be quarantined for 14 days if you have it? Now imagine if I weren't in my 20s and if I had more serious pre-existing conditions beyond only chronic sinus infections in the fall.
- Two seven-team divisions
- Have the tournament with best infrastructure to safely house teams and located in an area that also has lowest infection rate at the time
- Same testing/social distancing protocols you see for TBT, MLS and NBA
- 15 days in "bubble," will allow players to keep up with online classes
- 12 days of games, each team plays 6 division opponents (Bonnies get to play Fordham all 6 times)
- Top 4 in each division make the "A10 Tournament," three days for quarters/semis/final, just like in the before times
- all 32 conference champions then enter a second bubble for a single-elimination "NCAA Tournament"
- sorry, no at-larges, we're already playing with fire (good luck getting P5 to agree to this), maybe some conferences don't play and at-larges can fill the void?
I'm getting off track, but it's worth thinking of whether it's ethical to be using thousands of tests every day on athletes when our testing is an unmitigated disaster. TBT's player pool is microscopic when compared to all the tests needed in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, MLS, WNBA, NWSL, USL and NASCAR.
Ultimately, we should not play any college sports if we are not in an extremely safe place as a country (safer than allowing pro sports). I love the Bonnies just as much as you all and I would hate to possibly see the junior year of Osun/Lofton/Welch not happen (no guarantee they come back for a 5th year if given extra eligibility). However, I'm not going to advocate for college athletes to risk death or long-term/permanent health risks to play for free in any kind of normal looking schedule. Cattaraugus County is dodging most of the bullets, but how do you expect our guys to safely play at Davidson, where cases are skyrocketing in the south? How can we welcome teams from some of the largest cities in the world like NYC, Philly or Dayton if cases spike again there?
I just think that, as much as I shit on TBT, their bubble model clearly worked. Even on a larger scale, MLS is doing relatively well. Two teams did have to withdraw due to outbreaks of like 8+ within their own teams, but I think only a couple other players outside of those two teams tested positive. I think we'll also see more success out of the NBA/NHL bubbles than if the NFL doesn't do a single-city bubble or whatever the fuck MLB is doing. This is just my idea of doing something in 2021 if our country continues being absolutely stupid for most of what's left of 2020.
By the way, everyone, PSAC canceled sports today through December 31st, so that effectively ends any hope of Gannonfest 2020.
It's looking more and more like this is what's necessary to have a successful sports league right now. We'll see how the NBA and NHL do. Also, if you did this bubble on January 1, they wouldn't even need to worry about courses. Spring classes usually begin January 19, 2021, or in some cases January 12. When making my "pod" schedule I split teams up into North and South divisions (the South is pretty stacked, and includes every team south of Philly):
The upside of a conference bubble is that basically all college classes are going to offer some kind of online component, so players could still keep up academically. Even in the best case vaccine scenarios (anti-vaxxers are going to make it a fiasco, but I digress), Spring 2021 will not be a normal college semester.It's looking more and more like this is what's necessary to have a successful sports league right now. We'll see how the NBA and NHL do. Also, if you did this bubble on January 1, they wouldn't even need to worry about courses. Spring classes usually begin January 19, 2021, or in some cases January 12. When making my "pod" schedule I split teams up into North and South divisions (the South is pretty stacked, and includes every team south of Philly):
It took my 15 days to get mine, so I hear you on that. It's unethical that sports leagues are jumping to the front of the testing line because of money, but I'm sure plenty of other corporations are also doing it, so that just really shows how screwed up we are. Maybe by the end of 2020 we will have the 1-3 day testing turnaround time that can realistically reduce the spread? Who knows anymore...I think at this point there's no sports without a tight bubble. But even TBT lost 4 or 5 teams to the virus in that scenario while testing daily. I just don't see how you can do that with college athletes. Also, I don't know if any of you have gotten tested recently but in NYC the results are delayed by more than 14 days. Unless you can get 24 hour testing it will never work and these aren't sports leagues which can pay millions to cut the line....
So the only plans that are working right now in major sports are the ones that are in a bubble giving tests every. single. day. You need a centralized location with a powerful institution that can enforce remarkably difficult to meet standards. Even with all of that in place the cost will most likely outweigh the benefits, particulary for college sports.I know, res is the King of Smarm. You've got to admire him for sticking to business. I'm also sticking to mine, which is unreasonable expectations. In this case, it's that the autocratic NCAA actually lets loose on the reins enough to let members come up with their own plans. I live in a city of 150K where a grand total of 7 people died from the virus, if government data are to be believed. I took a bigger risk every time I got on a motorcycle, especially after consuming a few of my favorite beverages. I'm pretty sure what works where I live or Olean is different from what works in NYC. SBUnfurled's pod plan, which I saw on twitter, might be a good option. Here's a good philosophy to help come up with a plan:
Damn unfortunate how well this thread aged... hoping to talk A10 hoops with y’all soon :-/Until now, I guess most US sports fans haven't thought much about it, but a pandemic seems to be heading for our shores. We already have many diagnosed cases of coronavirus and it will grow exponentially if it follows the pattern of other countries. It's been a month since China cancelled major sporting events, so we should consider the possibility that severe measures of that type will soon be imposed in the USA. We are a couple weeks away from the A10 tourney and three weeks to the NCAA.
Life saving measures are foremost, so I'm not arguing against whatever needs to be done. It would certainly put us in "wait until next year" mode.